Doctor Who producer teases possible heartbreak for the Doctor and Yaz
“I think that’s a constant thing the Doctor’s grappling with – how close to get to her friends and companions.”
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- Huw Fullerton
Published: Friday, 4 February 2022 at 10:00 am
It’s fair to say that Doctor Who New Year’s special Eve of the Daleks had fans talking, especially when it came to Jodie Whittaker’s Doctor and her friend Yaz (Mandip Gill).
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You see, after years of fan speculation, it was officially confirmed in the episode that Yaz had romantic feelings for the Doctor. Moreover, it was revealed that the Doctor was aware of this, and only feigned ignorance to avoid a difficult conversation with her friend and companion.
And now, departing series producer Matt Strevens has addressed the “Thasmin” (Thirteen+Yasmin) reaction for the first time, noting that he was pleased the relationship had fans so invested – but that there might also be difficult times ahead for the duo.
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“I’m not a massive social media guy, but I did go onto Twitter on the night of the Eve of the Daleks broadcast to see what the buzz was, and everybody was talking about it,” he told Doctor Who Magazine.
“You can’t go on your phone without something about ‘Thasmin’ popping up. But I didn’t even know what it meant! Until suddenly it clicked and I was like, ‘Wow.’
“I think, since Russell brought the show back, most of the companion stories have been love stories. Very different sorts of love – platonic best-friend love; sometimes a romantic, unrequited love, like with Martha; sometimes more than that, like with Rose and the Doctor. It’s always been there.
“But I was very pleased with the positive response to those scenes between Yaz and Dan, and Dan and the Doctor. I thought they were beautifully played. Mandip was stunning.”
Mandip Gill and Jodie Whittaker on the set of Doctor Who BBC Studios/James Pardon
However, Strevens also came with something of a warning for fans, hinting that the very nature of Doctor Who meant that there was unlikely to be a happy ending for the Doctor and Yaz.
“It’s the old CS Lewis Shadowlands thing, isn’t it?” he said. “In a way, the Doctor is a bit like Lewis, in that you go, ‘I either don’t engage with love, and the world, and I protect myself, but I’ve never loved. Or by loving, I will inevitably open myself up to being brokenhearted, because, in the end, all love stories end.’
"I think that’s a constant thing the Doctor’s grappling with – how close to get to her friends and companions. Obviously it’s a special bond with Yaz, because they’ve spent so much time together. Who knows how it will end between the two of them?
“But I’ve enjoyed watching the speculation.”
Maybe, against the odds, the Doctor and Yaz can find some sort of happiness, or maybe we’re in for some kind of regeneration heartache. One way or another, we’re predicting there will be tears.
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Read the full interview with Matt Strevens in Doctor Who Magazine – out now.
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Huw FullertonCommissioning editor
Huw Fullerton is a commissioning editor for Radio Times magazine handling comedy, entertainment and specialist drama. In a previous regeneration, he covered all things sci-fi and fantasy for RadioTimes.com.
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